Transcaucasia is chosen primarily because of its mild maritime climate. Georgia is a country that boasts developed economic ties, access to the Black Sea, cleanliness and rich nature. The country is not the most popular for emigration, but some citizens want to move to live here.
Of all the republics of the former Soviet Union, Georgia can be called one of the most colorful. An abundance of cultural monuments, a beautiful coastline, delicious cuisine - this is information that every traveler knows. However, it is one thing to visit a country for tourism purposes, and another to move for permanent residence.
Reconomica magazine brings to its readers the real story of a family moving from Moscow to Georgia.
Why we decided to move to Georgia
My name is Marina, I'm 38 years old. I am a native Muscovite.
A year ago, my husband and children moved to live in Georgia. My husband is Georgian, and therefore we often traveled to his homeland and lived for a long time in different places: in the countryside and in the city.
The desire to stay in this country was present from the first trip. An amazingly diverse climate, natural beauty, clean air and water, natural food - all this translated desire into action.
All you had to do was decide:
- where exactly to move;
- what will we do there, how to earn money;
- questions with school, kindergarten.
First things first.
Required documents
Despite the fact that Russia officially does not have diplomatic relations with Georgia, citizens of the Russian Federation can freely come to Georgia without any visas. You can stay in the territory in free flight for up to 365 days.
For those who want to stay, apply for a temporary residence permit and obtain citizenship. Their duration and necessity are based on the reasons for the move: family reunification, employment contract, etc.
In my case, it was a family reunion. All procedures are lightweight, but still quite lengthy for me. Citizenship requires residence for three years, but I heard that this period has been increased to five years.
How much does public transport cost?
I don’t have a car, and in most cases I travel on my own two feet or use buses, minibuses, and the metro. To travel on public transport, you will need to buy a transport card, which costs two lari (about $0.7). If you wish, you can save the receipt and return the card when you leave Tbilisi. But even if you forgot the card at home or haven’t had time to buy it yet, there is a machine on the bus that accepts pennies (tetri) and a reader that also withdraws money from Visa and Mastercard.
You can also use the transport card in the minibus. Top up either through specialized kiosks at metro stations or through Paybox. Bank of Georgia (orange terminals) has created a very convenient system: you need to tap the card to the reader, and after identification, simply deposit money into your account without commission. You can see the balance on the card when you touch the card to the reader on the subway or bus.
The fare for the metro is 80 tetri (reduced to 50 if you use a transport card), for the bus – 50 tetri, for the minibus – 50–80 tetri depending on the distance. In terms of dollars, it turns out to be quite cheap – $0.15–0.20.
Bonus: the ticket is valid for one and a half hours. That is, if you make a transfer during this time, your next trip will cost you free. The only exception is minibuses.
Buses run strictly on schedule - there is an electronic display at almost every stop. It’s more difficult with minibuses - I couldn’t find their schedule. As well as route descriptions. Therefore, you need to ask the locals and remember.
Tbilisi also has a cable car and a funicular in the center. Travel costs 2.5 lari (less than $1). Although for me it’s more of an exotic thing that can be shown to guests than a means of transportation.
To enjoy the views of Tbilisi, it is worth taking a funicular ride
Intercity moving. There are two options (besides an expensive transfer): bus/minibus or train. I use trains only for longer journeys - for example, to Batumi or Poti. That is, to the coast. The fare depends on the class of carriage and ranges from $6–10. I usually take second class, since the only difference from first is the smaller distance between the seats and more people. The ticket price includes a bottle of water.
For shorter distances I use minibuses. There is a schedule, but often I just go to the Didube bus station and ask the drivers who is going in my direction and when. Minibuses depart as they are full, so they do not always correspond to the established schedule. Travel is cheap. For example, from Tbilisi to Borjomi – $2.2, to Mtskheta – $0.4. In more distant mountain regions - more expensive. For example, in Racha – $9. But you can also fly there on a small local plane like a corn carrier for $20-25.
Choosing between village and city
Both options have pros and cons.
Living in the city has its pros and cons.
Pros of city living
Availability of infrastructure:
- hospitals,
- the shops,
- bazaar,
- banks,
- schools,
- kindergartens,
- libraries,
- houses of justice (any document can be drawn up very quickly there), etc.
Utilities:
- water,
- gas,
- electricity.
As for utilities, this is a very difficult plus. Water, electricity, and gas can be turned off at any time, and whether and when they will be turned on is unknown. There are houses in which the water is turned off at night or even during the day - to save either electricity, which is consumed by the pumping station, or water. This is extremely inconvenient.
In addition, only cold water is supplied; to get hot water, you need to figure out how to heat it. Gas, electricity, and solar panels are used to heat water - these are additional costs.
Moreover, in Georgia, after the collapse of the Union, there is no central heating, so you need to heat your apartment or city house yourself. They do this using gas, electricity, and wood stoves. This is still a huge plus to city costs.
Since the income of the population is small, some save money and use ice water, and in winter they heat part of the room with a tiny heater and live like this, at 15 degrees, in an apartment or even a private city house.
It’s absolutely not an option for me, I’m used to wearing a T-shirt and shorts at home in winter and washing dishes with hot water at any time of the day.
Disadvantages of living in the city
- Instability and incompleteness of public services;
- Difficulty finding a source of income.
Georgia has a very high unemployment rate. The most profitable places: service in government agencies, police, banks.
You can have seven higher education degrees, speak Georgian and a bunch of other languages, be, as they say in your resume, active and creative, but you most likely won’t be able to find a job without getting acquainted.
Many agencies, such as the police, require a formal recommendation from two people who know you closely. Moreover, by recommending you, they take on great responsibility and, if you do something wrong somewhere, they will also lose their skin. Therefore, there is no rush to issue recommendations here.
In Georgia, after the collapse of the Union, there is no central heating, so you need to heat your apartment or city house yourself.
The second income option is your own business; running it in Georgia is very simple. There is no bureaucracy here with registration, reporting, taxation and laws that are even difficult to read. Everything is extremely simple and clear. All that remains is to implement the idea.
Since my husband and I have not yet come up with any idea for a business, we left this idea for the future. I just want to point out a peculiarity that is specific to Georgia in business. If you have started a business related to individuals (selling goods, services, etc.), purchase more large-format notebooks where you will write down debts. Alas. If you open a store, then the entire street, whatever the street, the entire district will be in debt to you, so it is best to deal with companies and the state.
Pros of living in a village
- The source of income is always in your hands.
In the village, income depends entirely on your activity: if you work, think, optimize, there will be income. They usually engage in several types of activities in order to make a profit in another in case of crop failure in one crop or failure with livestock.
In western Georgia, the main income comes from growing hazelnuts - they are grown, collected and handed over to the receiver. Growing nuts is not as labor-intensive as, for example, maintaining vineyards. The work is carried out throughout the year, culminating in the harvest in August.
In addition, you can grow vegetables, cows, pigs, chickens for sale, acquire a customer base and sell them milk, eggs, matsoni, butter, or hand it all over to a reseller (in this case, there is much less hassle, but the price is lower).
In the village, income depends entirely on your activity: if you work, think, optimize, there will be income.
For example:
- an average adult cow costs about 400-500 lari. Milk can be sold for 2 lara.
- Suluguni cheese, depending on the season, costs from 7-15 lari.
- Fruits in season - 1.5-2 lara per kilogram. And if you grow them in a greenhouse in winter, it will be much more expensive.
- Tomatoes - 1.5-2 lara.
- Nuts can be sold at completely different prices - from 1.5 to 5-7 lari per kilogram. Nuts are harvested in tons.
One lar is approximately 26-27 rubles.
- Utilities are available.
Many villages today have running water and gas.
- Availability of own water and heating sources.
This is a very important point. Your sources are always stable and accessible, no one can turn them off. Usually this is a well and firewood.
- Ecology.
In the countryside, of course, the environment is better than in the city:
- cleaner air;
- the products are mostly your own, you know what and how they were raised;
- clean water (although the city also has clean water, compared to Moscow);
- silence.
The windows of our apartment in Moscow overlook a busy highway. With the windows open, a car concert is guaranteed day and night. In the village, the ears rest, it feels as if they are simply in heaven.
- Availability of minimal infrastructure.
In almost any village you can find shops, a day care center, schools and kindergartens, and even a police stronghold. If something is urgent, then help services arrive quickly when called.
- The opportunity to live practically off your own household.
Living in a village has its pros and cons.
If you have land and livestock, then you can live off them, buying the minimum in stores:
- sugar,
- flour,
- household goods,
- something optional, for pleasure.
Disadvantages of village living
- Dependence of harvest, calving, etc. on pests, weather, diseases.
That is why you should not engage in any one type of activity. Not so long ago, for example, there was an epidemic that wiped out almost the entire pig population. Or, for example, some kind of pest attacked, and the nuts did not grow.
- Permanent employment in one or another type of work.
As a native resident of a metropolis, I consider this a disadvantage, but it is a conditional disadvantage. If this is your own farm, then it is interesting to do it, and you make a profit from it.
- Heat and water in the house depend on you.
Home improvement depends on you and your capabilities. You can do everything like in the city, even a jacuzzi. While in the city you already arrive at a ready-made apartment with all the amenities.
Since our income issue was resolved by renting out an apartment in Moscow, and this is very good money for Georgia, comfort and environmental friendliness, as well as the prospects for financial development, became the determining factors.
To make it clearer, 30 thousand rubles (renting an apartment on the outskirts of Moscow) is about 1150 lari, a salary many would dream of receiving.
We chose a village. The husband had a family home, his elderly mother lived in it, and two sisters and their families visited. In addition, there was a lot of land around the house (about 4 hectares), five cows, three pigs and chickens.
How to choose a district in Tbilisi
Many visitors try to look for housing in the center - in the areas of Vake, Saburtalo, Mtatsminda, Chugureti. I didn’t consider central options for two reasons: expensive and noisy. And mostly old housing stock. I wanted a new building with central heating (more on this point later), fresh renovations and a modern interior.
The old part of Tbilisi delights with authentic courtyards
A completely ordinary entrance to an old house in Tbilisi
From a security position in Tbilisi, you can safely rent housing in any area. From a convenience point of view, that’s a different matter. My first apartment was in Didi Digomi. This is a new area, quiet and safe. But I only lived there for a month – for several reasons.
- Firstly, it takes a long time to get to the center. This area is a kind of island, consisting of three main streets, which is surrounded by a highway and empty, not yet built-up spaces. There is one main street where you can find any desired products and even a cafe. The rest are not very developed in terms of infrastructure. There are two large supermarkets nearby. But only a couple of minibuses and one bus go to the center, and the journey takes 40–60 minutes, depending on traffic jams. It’s clear that you don’t really want to spend a total of two hours on the road every day.
- Secondly, a week later construction began right in front of my window. And considering that I lived on the third floor and worked at home most of the day, clearing the area for laying the foundation from nine in the morning to six in the evening was very stressful for me. When they started crushing the slabs for the foundation, my patience ran out, and I moved out almost a week before the end of the lease.
Now I live in Varketili. This is also considered the outskirts, but the area is much more developed, close to the metro. And thanks to the fact that mostly locals live here, buying food and clothing is much cheaper than in the center. And you can find everything you need for life.
And there are places to take a walk: not far from the Tbilisi Sea, Mount Mahata. Several gyms and a media library are open 24/7, where for less than $2 a month you can buy a subscription and get a workspace with free Internet. I live on the 13th floor, there is peace and quiet at night and during the day, you can admire the sunrise from the balcony. I'm not going to move.
Tbilisi Sea
Media library, where a workplace with the Internet costs two dollars a month
Moving
We prepared for the move for a long time - about a year:
- coordinated all issues with relatives;
- prepared documents;
- organized the transportation of things by a transport company;
- We were looking for reliable tenants and those who would look after them and the apartment.
And finally, on the May holidays, we got into a car with a trailer and hit the road. We got there quite quickly - in two days with one overnight stay in a hotel. I would like to note the work of Georgian customs - the whole procedure took 15-20 minutes. At the same time, we waited in line at our Russian customs for four hours. The inspection was very detailed, including unloading things and examining the underbody of the car.
The trip itself cost about 15 thousand rubles.
Cost of obtaining a residence permit in Georgia
Along with documents confirming the right to reside in Georgia, foreigners should be provided with a receipt for payment of the state fee. Its size depends on the validity period of the residence permit and the speed of preparation of the permit.
Thus, a temporary residence permit in Georgia can be obtained for:
- 10 working days – 410 GEL;
- 20 working days – 330 GEL;
- 30 working days – 210 GEL.
A permanent residence permit is issued for:
- 20 working days – 300 GEL;
- 30 working days – 180 GEL.
How we lived this year
Even before moving, we began to transform the house and complete repairs. By May everything was ready:
- connected the house to a gas pipe (400 GEL);
- installed solar panels and water heaters on the roof (2000 GEL). They are quite enough, utility bills are no more than 30 lari per month - that’s about 780 rubles.
- We also planned our agricultural activities: what and how we will do.
My mother-in-law was very happy about our move, she supports and helps us in everything. Of course, it was very difficult for her to live here alone. Now she happily spends time with her grandchildren, preparing them delicious khachapuri, mchadi, and pilamushi.
Our activities
When we arrived, the first thing we did was plant a large vegetable garden, both for us and for sale. We took care of the fruit trees. The cows consistently gave milk, we found a sales point and began selling milk and cream, making cheese for ourselves.
The large hazel tree was cleared and the harvest began to await. In August we got a good harvest of nuts. By the way, there were many foreigners cultivating hazel trees here. For example, in one of the neighboring villages, a large area was rented by Italians, suppliers of a famous Italian candy company. They have a huge fleet of equipment that cleans the hazel tree, collects the nuts and separates the shells. A little further north, closer to the mountains, lives a family from America. They came specifically to grow grapes and nuts.
How much does it cost to rent a home?
Prices for rental apartments vary greatly depending on the area and quality of housing, as well as the season and rental period. Most owners set a condition - an agreement for at least six months, or even a year. If you want to come for a couple of months, the price tag will be higher. How and if you come, say, in May-June.
I was looking for housing at the end of September, at the end of the season. Therefore, I easily found a Euro two-room apartment (separate bedroom and living room combined with a kitchen) for $200. My current apartment has a similar layout, but is much newer - no one lived here before me. And it costs the same. In general, in areas like Varketili, Gldani, Didi Digomi and even Digomi, you can actually find a cozy studio for $150–170, and a two-room apartment for $200. It can be done cheaper if you don’t care about the quality of the repair.
In euro-bedroom apartments, the living room and kitchen are a single space
If you want to live in a more central area, the price tag increases by one and a half to two times. On average, a good Euro two-room apartment can be found for $300–350, a studio apartment for $250. Although in the area of Mtatsminda, Vake, Vera the rates will be higher.
Examples of apartments that can be bought in Tbilisi
Apartment in Tbilisi, Georgia 27,000 € Area 36 m2, 1 room Buona Realty
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Apartment in Tbilisi, Georgia 52,600 € Area 96 m2, 3 rooms Buona Realty
Apartment in Tbilisi, Georgia 57,300 € Area 61 m2, 2 rooms Buona Realty
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Apartment in Tbilisi, Georgia 63,000 € Area 72 m2, 3 rooms Buona Realty
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Advice for those wishing to move
- Considering the very difficult economic situation in the past and present, it is worth moving to Georgia if you have sources of income that allow you to rent or rent housing, as well as support your family. This is the main advice.
- It is very desirable to have friends or acquaintances who are ready to support and help at least for the first time. They also speak Russian here, but without the Georgian language you will not be able to find a job with good pay or implement any business ideas. Everything is built on communication and acquaintances.
- People prefer to have land and farming. Having an apartment, many do not live in it, but simply come to the city to have fun.
The language of communication
The entire indigenous population of Georgia speaks their native language. The Russian language here is understood by most residents of large settlements, and in some villages they do not know it at all.
In service places and at the everyday level, problems with communication generally do not arise, so a Russian-speaking person feels quite comfortable here.
The Georgian language itself is quite complex both in its structure and pronunciation. But after living for a while, you can learn basic words, phrases, the alphabet and numbers that can make communication much easier.
What visas are issued in Georgia?
The visa-free regime significantly simplifies crossing the Georgian border; transit and tourist visas are issued automatically upon entry. To do this, you only need to show a document allowing you to travel abroad and adhere to all customs rules of the country. According to the rules of transit entry, a tourist can stay in the republic for a maximum of 3 days.
A visa will be required if the traveler expects to stay in Georgia for more than one year. In this case, you will have to obtain a visa in Russia in advance. Most often this applies to those tourists who go to Georgia for study or employment: a student or work visa is issued.
A visa for children is not issued until the age of 14; until this age, the child simply fits into the adult’s passport. If a child leaves the country with third parties, customs officers will definitely ask for a power of attorney that the parents are not against their child’s travel.
A Georgian visa can be obtained from the Georgian Interests Section at the Swiss Embassy or at visa centers.
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axarsu
https://gelavasadze.livejournal.com/1301770.html
My wife and I moved here from Baku more than a year ago :) we are not Georgians at all. We live, we are happy, we like everything.
godblessme
Good afternoon! I myself am a Georgian - I have only negative assessments of Georgia, I want to go back to Moscow where I lived 80% of my life, but unfortunately the Georgian government took me hostage and I can’t go back, and I can’t go to the consulate because They will consider me crazy, and everyone I see will burst with envy if God willing, move back to Moscow time. I graduated from school and college in Moscow time, I don’t know how it happened, but I stupidly got into the car and stupidly drove from Moscow to Tbilisi, then in 2012 I had depression and left from there, in general the situation is like this here (in Georgia) I play a completely different social role (I still don’t understand what), the work is completely different, that is, if I graduated from school, college, now after 23 years (now I’m 29, more than 6 years in the ass) I’m stupidly sitting out my life in mountains, there is nothing at all. I can’t order sushi for you because... My compatriots don’t allow me to earn money normally, for 5.5 years of life... in short, horror
osha_osha
https://gelavasadze.livejournal.com/1301770.html
I think the main issue is that Georgia is cheaper and more environmentally friendly. The advantage is that it is a former Soviet republic, which means many people speak Russian. with 2000 dollars there is nothing to do in Moscow, but in Georgia you can enjoy life :-) they also go to Thailand and other countries. A much more interesting example would be when a person moved to Georgia, no matter where, found a job without a language or learned the language. Then there would be an understanding of the prospects: how much the average migrant can earn, how much time he needs to learn the language, what professions are in demand, etc. :-)
Nikita
https://kray-zemli.com/forum/threads/njuansy-pereezda-na-pmzh-v-gruziju-iz-rossii.1/
I'm probably already late with my answer, but still.
In general, my life turned out in such a way that I moved for permanent residence to Tbilisi.
The move was from the Altai Territory, so the things were traveling in a container.
About two weeks ago I cleared my container through customs.
The order is:
You receive a Permit for Permanent Residence (a residence permit seems to be included there)
Write two applications to the tax office: 1. About assigning you a TIN 2. About permission to import things.
You receive a response by letter to the second application (the first is done immediately), which should say that the opportunity exists and you have never used it.
Collect a package of documents: Your ID (or whatever they give you), Foreign passport of the Russian Federation, A copy of the import application (they will give it to you and confirm it with the tax office), A letter with a response.
Carrying your things across the border. On the Russian side, you hear that Gazelle is now equal to trucks and you need to get a transport card, in the end you drive through (we all understand how).
On the Georgian side, the gazelle passes the inspection point and reports that the items are for customs clearance.
Together with the driver, you go to the customs officers (the building to the right of the inspection point - next to the X-ray). The driver with all the documents for himself and the car, you with your package of documents.
You inform the customs officers about the customs clearance of personal belongings, showing all documents and letters.
Fill out the declaration (customs officers will help) in Russian.
In 20% of cases the car will be weighed.
Then the car will be sealed and you will have three days to get to the customs terminal.
The terminal is located on the Tbilisi-Airport-Rustavi highway (500 meters behind the Lilo shopping center, turn right to Rustavi and Gamarjvebu) - there are 2 large buildings on the right, you won’t miss it.
The driver goes to the parking lot, you go to the first building (it’s on the right if you look at them), there at the entrance you explain what you need and take a ticket.
The driver must receive documents stating that the car has been accepted into the parking lot and has been assigned a number. These documents are given to you. You are their operator.
Then you are sent for inspection to the next building, the one on the left. Take your pass and go talk to the inspector.
As agreed, go further through the building (there are many open gates with ramps for cars), there will be a customs officer sitting in a glass house, he will tell you which gate to drive up to.
The driver drives up, opens the car, and the inspector examines with his keen eye. If he (or she) has no suspicions, then he tells you to go to the operator. At this time, it puts a mark in the system that the cargo is personal belongings and can be passed through.
Go to the operator (take the ticket again). Then everything is simple.
Some important information:
1. Be sure to make a list of all property. Not down to screws and boards, but per unit of furniture (for example 1. Complete kitchen. Even if it is disassembled down to the boards)
2. The list must be in two or three copies.
3. In the declaration and in all cases, SPECIFY that there are no goods for commercial activities!
4. It is better to weigh the gazelle in advance. There will be a penalty for overweight. They charged me 600 lari for overweight of 300 and 900 kg. And they won’t let the car go any further; you’ll have to look for a new one to reload it.
5. It’s better not to joke with customs officers about any foreign objects that you allegedly have in your possession - they still work and can force you to unload them.
If it’s still relevant, I can tell you how to clear a car from the Russian Federation through customs.
If necessary, I’m ready to tell you everything I know.
Alice
https://nesiditsa.ru/emigration/emigratsiya-v-gruziyu-i-nemnogo-i-tbilisi
I visit Georgia several times a year. The situation has noticeably worsened after Saakashvili. The city became dirty again, and the roads also stopped being repaired. Dirty, dilapidated minibuses began to travel again. Tbilisi residents themselves also note that it is getting worse. Crime has also raised its head: everyone amnestied wants to eat and drink, as a result: they were robbed here, they were robbed here... It’s not all rosy in government agencies either: old personnel who are accustomed to bribes are being brought back. If we consider it development, Kazantip, in Anaklia...) So this is a total shame! Studying the Russian language for Georgian youth is not good, but watching orgies... - OK!
Maksim
https://nesiditsa.ru/emigration/emigratsiya-v-gruziyu-i-nemnogo-i-tbilisi
It’s immediately obvious that you don’t have any relatives in Georgia and that you haven’t been there. If you cite “ridiculous” salaries of $300, why don’t you write about food prices, for example? I think because you don't know them. 300 bucks is not small money for Georgia! If you eat at home, then this is equivalent to 1000-1100 dollars in the central regions of the Russian Federation... So don’t-la-la!
About the beggars, yes, they are there, but 90% of them are gypsies. I won’t even comment on the rest of the nonsense that you wrote, it’s disgusting. As they say, whose cow would moo!
marina
https://nesiditsa.ru/emigration/emigratsiya-v-gruziyu-i-nemnogo-i-tbilisi
Hello everyone. I read the article and, to be honest, I was a lot nervous while I was reading it. Complete nonsense. I have been married to a Georgian for 26 years, I know Georgia well, I know its problems, I know how they lived before and how they live now. In the near future, on my own initiative, I want to leave Russia and move to Georgia.
About the savings that the girl wrote is complete nonsense, the whole family needs to go to the toilet. Georgians save in the same way as Russians, no matter what, and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. Russians are considered second class, but for so many years I have never seen or felt this. The attitude towards Russians in Georgia is excellent. Young people treat Russians in the same way as older people, it’s a lie that young people don’t want to know Russian, young people are happy to learn Russian and English and their own language. And the fact that Georgian and English are now spoken in the metro is something Georgians don’t like.
I have lived my whole life in Russia, I have everything, but without regret I will leave everything and go to Georgia, where, as in the song, everything is simple and without envy. Where they don’t pay attention to what you’re wearing or how much money you have, where neighbors drink coffee together in the morning and where, if something bad happens, the whole street tries to help. I love you GEORGIA.
guest
https://za7gorami.ru/pereezd-v-gruziyu-na-pmzh
It’s better not to count on a job, especially a lucrative one. Only if you have your own business or work remotely. In Georgia, it’s easy to live in the style of a tourist, even for a long time, and as long as you’re considered a tourist, don’t leave this comfort zone. But don’t flatter yourself, it’s unrealistic to seriously settle down without knowing the language and much more.
Only if you have Georgian roots, then yes, you won’t have those problems.
Abram
https://za7gorami.ru/pereezd-v-gruziyu-na-pmzh
Good afternoon, I can’t help but add my two cents and I hope my review is useful to someone. I myself come from Georgia, from the small Jewish village of Kulashi (near Kutaisi), or rather from there, my parents came first to Israel and then to Moscow, I have lived in Moscow all my adult life and have a business, real estate and a car, and even a Kabardian girl).Georgia is like many say a country of contrasts, here there are both very modern, developed people with Western diplomas and people with full bellies who know nothing and dream of Soviet life, the so-called lost generation of people who could not adapt to modern life, these are mainly taxi drivers, small speculators etc. The stories and complaints of such people, in principle, should not be taken as the truth, that the government is bad, that they are preventing them from doing business, the problem is in the people themselves - these people are looking for quick money, they even seriously think that they can make money in a bookmaker's office and get rich, these people are dreamers and never take the reviews of such people as the truth! I myself have been living in Tbilisi for 2 years, to say that I am happy is to say nothing, this is a country where you need to do business, here there are all the conditions for business development in any field, in Moscow I tried it myself, but I can’t move forward, I need millions dollars for normal development, I even tried it in Israel, but everything is already there, the country is developed! and Georgia is a developing country with enormous potential, without exaggeration, it has already surpassed and is far ahead of neighboring Azerbaijan, which is richer in natural resources, but still a more backward society, I won’t say anything at all about Armenia, not even to say anything. I forgot to tell you what I don’t like here - it’s very difficult and incredibly difficult to meet girls, and in order for her to like it too, you have to be a real crazy romantic; when moving to Tbilisi, come with your own samovar). + bottled water like Evin costs 30 kopecks and this is not purified tap water like in MSC) judge for yourself!
PS in Tbilisi it is much easier to find your social circle, if we talk about moving, I would more recommend Tbilisi or the steppe Rustavi, Batumi is still a provincial city and the people there are still of the old format. If Georgia is either Tbilisi or a dacha village, I don’t recommend considering other cities for living, it will be difficult for a person from a metropolis to get used to the same Kutaisi or Batumi
marina
https://nesiditsa.ru/emigration/emigratsiya-v-gruziyu-i-nemnogo-i-tbilisi
And hello again, everyone. I live in two countries, Georgia and Russia, because I have been married to a Georgian for 26 years. Yes, Georgia is prospering and developing, the people have begun to live a little better than in the period from 92, when people ate zucchini every day, shared bread in pieces, I know this time, hunger, poverty, now thank God there is no such thing, but rich Georgia is not you name it. The fact that bridges and cities are being built does not make people richer; the fact that a beautiful palace was built somewhere or Saakashvili organized a holiday does not make people’s pockets any better; people need work, but it simply doesn’t exist in Georgia. Our home is in Kakheti, the birthplace of grapes and winemaking, when Georgia lived in friendship with Russia, everyone knew that they needed to save grapes, fruits, this is their money, a very large percentage of everything produced went to Russia, and what happened later, Saakashvili did everything, to ruin relations with Russia, and people were left alone with their gardens. There is a harvest, but there is no place to put it.
Georgia is beautiful, I love it as it is, currently my husband and I want to completely move to Georgia. But our children do not consider this option. It is impossible to compare Georgia with Russia, Georgia is still far from Russia, with its orders and living conditions, I often bring my nephews from Georgia to Moscow, the children are so delighted with everything that they don’t want to go back, and I will explain to you why. I’m a little over 40, my husband too, my eldest son is 25, my youngest is 19. The children are accustomed to complete comfort and freedom, they travel abroad, have their own cars, there is always a choice of work, they even think differently, which cannot be said about those of my beloved living nephews in Georgia. There is no work, which means there is no opportunity to go anywhere either, there are discos, but only in Tbilisi and children whose parents have a good income can attend them. Parks and recreation are practically not available. Have you ever been to a park in Tbilisi? Where, during the descent, you can visit Griboedov’s grave? The place is fascinating, beauty is everywhere, but it is completely empty, the locals practically don’t go, and there are very few tourists. Looking at all this, I am so sorry that my Georgia, which has many opportunities, does not have the opportunity to make all this a property.
Living in Georgia at the moment is good for people who have everything going well in their lives, who have some kind of business not only in Georgia, but also outside it. I am leaving, but there is still a business in Russia, several apartments that I can rent out and live comfortably in Georgia helping your relatives. Russia is just as beautiful, but we live differently, we are spoiled here with everything, starting from the smallest things, we do not appreciate what we have. We are greedy, envious here, we are practically not happy with anything, which cannot be said about the Georgians. Here we look at what kind of car the neighbor bought and what his wife was wearing, where Vasya went on vacation and where they brought him gifts from, I live in Georgia, I have never seen a neighbor wishing the worst for a neighbor (of course there is such a thing, but not like this like in Russia), I didn’t see young people trying to buy themselves something more expensive, while shaking their parents, I didn’t see women gathering on someone’s veranda in the morning and drinking coffee, I always remember the smell of the coffee they prepared in the evening everyone gathers on the street, plays backgammon, drinks wine and sings.
Georgia is a special country. Tbilisi is beautiful and dirty at the same time. There are few garbage cans, there is generally a problem with toilets on the street, the entrances are terrible, but the elevators work. Move away from Tbilisi, Telavi for example. It feels like you've stepped back into the last century. The roads are broken, there are heaps of garbage all around, the markets are generally on the verge of fantasy. So comparing Georgia with Russia is completely incomparable. There are also plenty of such places in Russia, tons of cockroaches, but these are just places, not the whole country. Blaming Russia for the country's sins is stupid. Did you live in Georgia near the USSR? This was the country to which I, while still living in Siberia, came as if abroad. The shelves were filled with goods, there was everything that cannot be said about Russia, but then 93 came and that’s it, from then on the countdown began for Georgia. Russia never seeks to conquer anyone; Russia has so much land that it cannot be processed by itself, let alone someone else’s. And when people write that Russia is invaders, these are either those who do not leave Georgia, or who want to cast a shadow over the fence.
I apologize if my comment turned out to be chaotic, if anyone wants to know something better, I will be happy to answer. But I ask you not to humiliate either Georgia or Russia, these are two completely different countries, with their own laws and orders, with their own foundations. I believe that the fewer people in the country there are like some of those who wrote here, vile comas in my opinion, the faster Georgia will rise. As for Ukraine, just keep quiet, brothers Slavs, the country is completely on Russian and foreign subsidies. You ruined everything, together with your Kuchmas, Yushchenkos, Yanukovychs and Yatsenyuks, YOU followed the lead of the Americans and you only have yourself to blame. Now you will be poor for another 20 years. You had the opportunity to work in Russia, and now you have lost that too. I feel sorry for ordinary people with a sound mind.
Gull
https://za7gorami.ru/pereezd-v-gruziyu-na-pmzh
Hello Oksana! I am an accountant from Moscow, a Georgian husband. We have an apartment in Tbilisi and Moscow. I know life in Georgia firsthand. Work is hard. If only you rent out housing to tourists and be a guide and driver yourself. This year we are already pensioners, we have an apartment in Moscow, so with such capital you can live in Georgia. I think that without knowing the language it will be difficult for you.
If you are one of those who don’t meddle in someone else’s monastery with your own rules, then you will get accustomed.
Silk
https://za7gorami.ru/pereezd-v-gruziyu-na-pmzh
Hello!
I read different opinions about moving to Georgia and descriptions of different experiences or intentions. I’m probably the craziest of those who spoke above, but after visiting Georgia several times, the thought of moving to Tbilisi for a year comes to me very persistently. When I went there, I met local residents who are involved in the tourism and hotel business and therefore, I think that I could somehow find a place for myself there. Moreover, there is an apartment in Moscow that can be rented out for $1,000. per month. There’s nothing holding me back here; I’m both psychologically and physically allergic to Moscow, and the further it goes, the worse it gets. But the main question is the daughter. Now she is studying in a good school, studying two languages, but what to do in Tbilisi? I do not have the moral right to disrupt a child without improving conditions, first of all, in education. Are there really decent schools in Tbilisi, albeit private, but with excellent education, languages, etc.? So that I can justify this for myself and my family, first of all, by the fact that for my daughter it will be a leap up, and not a fall down and a waste of time, because then it will be very difficult to return to the Russian program.
Standard of living in Georgia and the country’s position in the ranking of international importance
In terms of GDP, the state ranks 113th in the world (there are 187 countries in total). Each resident accounts for $9,630 of GDP. Currently, more than 365,000 residents live below the officially established poverty line. This is slightly less than 1/10 of the entire population. The cost of living for one family of four people per month is 127 dollars (that’s 290 lari). Of course, it’s difficult to call him tall. It is important to note that the average income of an average family is about 176 dollars (that’s 400 lari) per month. There are practically no opportunities to make serious purchases, purchase real estate or travel to different resorts abroad.
How long can citizens of Russia and other countries stay in the country?
The Government of Georgia has approved countries whose citizens can stay in Georgia without a visa throughout the calendar year.
These are states such as Armenia, EU countries, Russia, USA, Ukraine, Belarus and others. There are 94 of them in total. You can find the full list here https://matsne.gov.ge/ka/document/view/2867361?publication=0. Unfortunately, there are states for whose residents the visa-free stay will be much shorter , these include:
- Iran. Residents of this country can come to Georgia without a visa for a period of 45 days.
- Uruguay. Tourists from this state will be allowed to stay in Georgia for 90 days.
- Chile. Residents of this country are luckier than those previously mentioned, since their journey can last for 180 days.
People living in countries not on the list given above, but wishing to visit Georgia can do so if they have a visa from one of the following countries:
- Australia;
- Bahrain;
- Great Britain;
- Northern Ireland;
- Danish territories;
- Israel;
- Ireland;
- Canada;
- Qatar;
- Kuwait;
- Liechtenstein;
- New Zealand;
- UAE;
- Oman;
- Saudi Arabia;
- USA;
- South Korea;
- Japan;
- as well as states included in the Schengen area.
A visa to the recommending country must be valid at the time of stay in Georgia.
How to get a visa to Georgia?
You can independently apply for a Georgian visa through the consular department of the Georgian Embassy in Moscow.
Photo taken from panoramio.com. To apply for a visa to Georgia on your own, go to the embassy of the republic.
You need to decide on the type of entry permit, take a package of documents, fill out a visa application form, sign it, hand in the documents and wait for a decision.
The procedure is also carried out via the Internet - www.evisa.gov.ge.
How to enter Georgia after visiting Abkhazia and South Ossetia?
To avoid problems when entering Georgia, when traveling around Abkhazia and South Ossetia, you should use an internal Russian passport instead of a foreign passport, since no stamps are placed on it.
Photo taken from abkhaziago.ru. There are strained relations between Georgia, Abkhazia and South Ossetia due to previous armed conflicts; when visiting Georgia, you should not advertise your past stay in the rebel territories. Otherwise, you may not be stamped and sent home.
It is illegal to cross the border with Abkhazia by car. If this rule is not followed, the traveler may be fined 480 Georgian lari. In some cases, a person will suffer criminal punishment in the form of imprisonment.
